219: From Librarian to Developer: w/ Roxy Rodriguez-Becker

[00:00:00] Intro: Welcome to Syntax. Welcome to a brand new episode of the Front End Happy Hour podcast. Welcome to this week’s JS Party. Live from Ship Shape Studios, this is Whiskey Web and Whatnot. With your hosts, Robbie the Wagner, and me, Charles William Carpenter III. That’s right Charles. We drink whiskey and talk about web development.

[00:00:27] Intro: I mean, it’s all in the name. It’s not that deep. This is Whiskey Web and Whatnot. Do not adjust your set.

[00:00:36] Jason: We are live right now. Holy cow. , We don’t have the fun intro today, but we have an even better intro. We have the one, the only whiskey web and whatnot slash tech commute collab. What’s up, Robbie

[00:00:50] Robbie Wagner: what’s up The cabernet

[00:00:52] Robbie Wagner: commute. Yes.

[00:00:53] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Cabernet

[00:00:53] Jason: Commute.

[00:00:54] Robbie Wagner: You gotta have the alliteration.

[00:00:55] Jason: right. Cabernet Commute is live.

[00:00:58] Jason: It is [00:01:00] Monday, October 13th.

[00:01:02] Robbie Wagner: It is,

[00:01:03] Jason: Robbie, what are we drinking

[00:01:04] Robbie Wagner: we are drinking the San Simeon Cabernet. So Manon

[00:01:09] Jason: Holler

[00:01:10] Robbie Wagner: from, , I don’t know. I don’t know anything else about it.

[00:01:12] Jason: from Costco.

[00:01:13] Robbie Wagner: Yeah, it actually is. I get most of my wine from Costco. Yeah, they have good wine. It’s not Costco brand. It’s

[00:01:18] Robbie Wagner: like,

[00:01:18] Jason: No, it’s not Kirkland’s signature Cabernet, which would be fantastic, but while he, oh, I love that. Listen to that. A SMR.

[00:01:28] Robbie Wagner: Pass it down.

[00:01:29] Jason: We’re burying the headline here. , It’s probably because the headline’s actually just below the table on a booster seat.

[00:01:37] Jason: Yeah.

[00:01:37] Jason: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome the one, the only Roxana.

[00:01:43] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: oh, Ana Maria Rodriguez

[00:01:45] Jason: Yeah. Say the whole thing. That what

[00:01:48] Robbie Wagner: that’s what you were gonna say, right? Yeah.

[00:01:51] Jason: Guys. Roxy’s here. How exciting is this? This is super fun. , I’m getting you Chinese. Oh. Taylor’s getting me Chinese food.

[00:01:58] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Well, I just got the alert that [00:02:00] Whiskey Web is live and so are

[00:02:02] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: you.

[00:02:02] Jason: Shut up. We are. It’s great to see you.

[00:02:05] Robbie Wagner: I did not spill wine everywhere. If anyone was wondering,

[00:02:09] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: not on

[00:02:09] Jason: your shirt is indicating otherwise

[00:02:12] Robbie Wagner: Hey, it’s, it’s like, uh, same color as this,

[00:02:15] Robbie Wagner: it’s fine.

[00:02:16] Robbie Wagner: It’s

[00:02:16] Jason: Um, Roxy, we’re, we’re gonna deep dive in here, but let’s, let’s maybe do a Cheers. You wanna do a toast first? Chuck? Chuck and Robbie,

[00:02:26] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: what?

[00:02:27] Jason: Chuck.

[00:02:28] Jason: Jesus Christ.

[00:02:30] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Chuck?

[00:02:30] Robbie Wagner: I don’t have,

[00:02:31] Robbie Wagner: uh, I don’t have any, uh, toast ready

[00:02:33] Robbie Wagner: for you, but.

[00:02:34] Jason: That’s fine. That’s fine.

[00:02:35] Jason: So Roxy, why don’t you introduce yourself to everybody that doesn’t know who you are.

[00:02:40] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I’m Roxy. I used to work in film.

[00:02:44] Jason: too soon.

[00:02:47] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I work in education. I am making the transition into tech and I talk about the tube feed tracker a lot ‘cause that’s like what I’ve put out there.

[00:02:56] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I have a talk in a couple weeks at Magnolia Comp,

[00:02:58] Jason: Shout out to

[00:02:59] Robbie Wagner: yeah, [00:03:00] one of the conferences in October.

[00:03:02] Jason: one of the

[00:03:03] Jason: many, one of the many.

[00:03:04] Jason: , Roxy, talk to us a little bit about your background. Obviously in tech commute, we kind of deep dive that, and I wanna know. Why tech? What were you doing before that? , Where are you transitioning from?

[00:03:15] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: from Education.

[00:03:18] Jason: Education. Um,

[00:03:19] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: yeah, so I, used to be a math teacher, a middle school math teacher, and then when we started having children, I.

[00:03:26] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Transitioned

[00:03:27] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: into the library in Texas, you have to have a master’s in library and information science to be a librarian, which is super ironic at the moment.

[00:03:35] Jason: Why is that ironic

[00:03:36] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Why is that? Because they’re mostly just burning books over there. But, you know,

[00:03:40] Jason: geez. I think you’re

[00:03:42] Robbie Wagner: That’s, that’s the

[00:03:43] Robbie Wagner: best way to consume the knowledge. Yeah.

[00:03:45] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: but yeah, so I’ve been in the library for a few years now and it’s great because. you know, I don’t have a, I’m not tied to a classroom, so I have a little more freedom to do stuff like

[00:03:54] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: this. And, , yeah, so I dabbled in [00:04:00] web development, like super basic stuff, like everyone says, like MySpace. I had a live journal, stuff like that. And then I took a web development course as part of my master’s program and one of the girls in my class needed a lot of help. And so that was really fun and I was like, oh my gosh, I forgot that I really love doing this.

[00:04:16] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: And one of the roles as a librarian, you do, you do so much stuff, like it’s not just books. so,

[00:04:22] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I manage the title budget at my school and like, it’s a lot of documentation and paperwork and like chasing people around. And, , I also do the website and social media for our school. And so like, I usually do a lot of the graphics so I managed the website and so that’s also been like super cool. And then through that, people at Lela’s at my kids’ school found out that I was trying to transition to tech. And so now I volunteer with like PTO, I’m gonna do their auction website. And then, through that I am also volunteering with the Houston area suicide.

[00:04:54] Jason: prevention,

[00:04:56] Robbie Wagner: prevention.

[00:04:56] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Yeah. It’s the prevention. It’s the prevention [00:05:00] coalition. Well, I was trying to remember if it was

[00:05:01] Jason: awareness Wait, so Hughes,

[00:05:03] Jason: HSPC?

[00:05:05] Robbie Wagner: Yes.

[00:05:05] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Yeah. But yeah,

[00:05:07] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: so I am, so I, I do, uh, help out with their website as well. Um, yeah, the prevention look, I thought, I was like, is it awareness or prevention?

[00:05:16] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Because you can.

[00:05:16] Robbie Wagner: Yeah. Just like this, this is a time we need to not have a pause,

[00:05:19] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: pause. No. So what’s awful is like whenever I’m writing notes or like trying to schedule something, like I keep putting like suicide meeting or something and I’m like, okay, this is like, probably need to

[00:05:31] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: put

[00:05:32] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: the

[00:05:32] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: acronym

[00:05:32] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: in there and stuff. Like lay stuff like, oh, I have a suicide meeting at 3:00 PM today.

[00:05:38] Jason: Well, uh, I mean, based on what you said and how you sort of framed it, it sounds like there’s a ton

[00:05:44] Jason: of transferable skills there, and I’m curious, like, are you boot camping it or how are you learning how to code?

[00:05:53] Jason: Obviously that like entry level course at

[00:05:56] Jason: college

[00:05:57] Jason: isn’t

[00:05:57] Jason: gonna get you there.

[00:05:58] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Yeah, started with free [00:06:00] code camp and then I discovered a hundred devs and so I’ve been going through those courses and I’m a really big part of that community now. there’s the whole

[00:06:10] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: series

[00:06:10] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: going on

[00:06:11] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: that’s, I think it’s kind series

[00:06:13] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I think it’s kind of on hold. No, I think it’s kind of on, I think it’s kind of on hold right now because of the, , ‘cause of hunt tober, which is super cool.

[00:06:21] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: But yes, it’s called the Chosen one series

[00:06:23] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: and it’s not

[00:06:24] Jason: What is that? Give

[00:06:24] Jason: us some context. ‘cause I’m sure Ravi has

[00:06:26] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: no idea

[00:06:27] Jason: the fuck you’re

[00:06:27] Robbie Wagner: I don’t, I don’t,

[00:06:30] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: ,

[00:06:30] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: So, you know, Leon Noelle from a hundred, Deb.

[00:06:33] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: What

[00:06:35] Robbie Wagner: is that the Leon from the podcast with Danny? Yes. Okay. I, I didn’t know his last

[00:06:39] Robbie Wagner: name,

[00:06:39] Robbie Wagner: but I know Leon. Yeah.

[00:06:40] Robbie Wagner: Yeah.

[00:06:41] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I mean, it’s

[00:06:41] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: not actually his

[00:06:42] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: last

[00:06:42] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: name,

[00:06:43] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: it’s

[00:06:43] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: just

[00:06:43] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: his

[00:06:43] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: first

[00:06:44] Jason: if you notice. Yeah. It’s just reversed.

[00:06:47] Jason: Leon

[00:06:48] Jason: Noelle. Yeah.

[00:06:50] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: So in case

[00:06:51] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: anyone

[00:06:51] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: didn’t

[00:06:52] Jason: just got that

[00:06:52] Jason: and you guys all got to

[00:06:53] Jason: see

[00:06:54] Jason: it

[00:06:54] Robbie Wagner: All right. All right. I’m done. I’ll see you guys.

[00:06:57] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: , Yeah, so he selected somebody from [00:07:00] the community to kind of like go through the job hunt process in public and like you have to do everything the correct way.

[00:07:06] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: So since April, like I’ve been correctly job hunting. , And I’ve had a few interviews recently. I feel like I’m getting close. So, it’s a great program. Everybody, the community is amazing.

[00:07:18] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: We’ve got Lucas sitting

[00:07:19] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: over there,

[00:07:20] Jason: Yeah. Lucas, a hundred, a hundred devs sitting across

[00:07:23] Jason: from us. There’s

[00:07:24] Jason: actually several here. Yeah.

[00:07:25] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Yes.

[00:07:26] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Um,

[00:07:26] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: is

[00:07:26] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: that?

[00:07:27] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Teron unique?

[00:07:28] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Yeah.

[00:07:28] Jason: Yeah. Dewan, I think I met in, uh, the, the big No

[00:07:33] Jason: there’s

[00:07:33] Jason: multiple other ones anyway.

[00:07:35] Jason: How has that

[00:07:35] Jason: been for

[00:07:36] Jason: you to have.

[00:07:37] Jason: Kind of an external support system through all of this. Uh, a hundred devs community’s obviously super supportive and positive. Being

[00:07:44] Jason: a member

[00:07:45] Jason: of myself,

[00:07:45] Jason: I

[00:07:45] Jason: totally

[00:07:46] Jason: understand,

[00:07:46] Jason: but

[00:07:46] Jason: like

[00:07:47] Jason: trying to self-teach or self-learn and then doing that while you’re working and having a family, and obviously Daniel, your, your husband supports you, but like how important has it been for you as far [00:08:00] as progress to have that external support as well?

[00:08:02] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Yeah. So I’ve been super lucky that my family has been extremely supportive because especially with like traveling to conferences and. A lot of people, you know, it’s like, why, why do you keep going? Why? And and honestly, it’s like an investment for myself and I’ve been able to like finagle, like either discounted tickets or free tickets.

[00:08:22] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: of all the conferences I’ve been to, I think I’ve only paid for maybe three of them. and that was mostly at the beginning. I did pay for this one though ‘cause I really enjoy a TO ‘cause I really did enjoy it last year and so I got an early bird ticket. But, Yeah, so I’m grateful for their support.

[00:08:35] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: My, you know, obviously Daniel with the kids and everything every day, and he tries to do it himself even though my parents are there to help. , Yeah, my parents and my sister, and my mother-in-law and, you know, they’re all helping. So make this possible. The Torque community has been incredibly supportive as well as the hundred devs community that we’ve been talking about, although, being in the job hunt spotlight, definitely, it takes its toll because you already have [00:09:00] I already have all this pressure that I put on myself. And then, you know, there’s the added pressure of like, okay, like everyone’s watching and waiting and somebody over the summer compared it to like a TV show. And I’m like, okay, well we’ve hit a plateau and TV show’s a little boring at the

[00:09:14] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: moment, so.

[00:09:14] Jason: The Truman Show of code. Um, well talk about that a little bit. Like how are you adjusting

[00:09:20] Jason: or how

[00:09:20] Jason: are

[00:09:20] Jason: you handling that? Because I mean,

[00:09:23] Jason: without it,

[00:09:24] Jason: this

[00:09:24] Jason: is already a hard process.

[00:09:26] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Adjusting to the what? The stress?

[00:09:28] Jason: No, the, public

[00:09:29] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: eye on

[00:09:29] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: your

[00:09:29] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: whole

[00:09:30] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Oh, journey

[00:09:30] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Oh. Um, so luckily, , being a mom that works full time and like, most of my spare moments are taken like I’m on my computer or with my kids or whatever.

[00:09:40] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I don’t have a lot of time to overthink things.

[00:09:45] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Shut

[00:09:45] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: up.

[00:09:47] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like, you know, I get imposter syndrome, but I, it doesn’t last long because I just don’t have the time. Like I have to brush it off and keep going.

[00:09:53] Jason: Okay. I was gonna ask what you meant by it

[00:09:55] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: doesn’t

[00:09:56] Jason: long. How do you move past

[00:09:57] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: it,

[00:09:57] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: don’t know. I guess I kind of talk to people, talk to the [00:10:00] community. ‘cause everybody you know, they go through the same thing. And that was another thing because I feel like Leon chose me because I’m a little more social and that’s something that a lot of people need to work on.

[00:10:13] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Like, I have tons of

[00:10:14] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: stuff

[00:10:14] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: to work on, but

[00:10:15] Jason: networking.

[00:10:16] Jason: Like what?

[00:10:18] Jason: No,

[00:10:18] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like, no. Like the actual studying and coding and everything, like, you know, I can always be better. but the fact that, you know, I’m sharing about my imposter syndrome, you know, it resonates with, with everyone.

[00:10:31] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: And I guess just being open about it, I

[00:10:33] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: don’t know, it

[00:10:33] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: just kind

[00:10:34] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: of

[00:10:34] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: connects everybody.

[00:10:35] Jason: you finding that hard, like that vulnerability

[00:10:39] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: lately,

[00:10:40] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: , It’s mostly all written out, so it’s been really easy. But the first few, like streams. When like, we were getting into the hard hitting subject matter and working on the behavioral interview questions and everything. I think there was like one or two where I like almost cried. But,

[00:10:56] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: you

[00:10:56] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: know,

[00:10:57] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I, I was able to compose myself. Well,

[00:10:59] Jason: Well, let [00:11:00] me, let me ask you about that. Like,

[00:11:01] Jason: when you

[00:11:02] Jason: think about like, what caused that emotion, what was that like,

[00:11:06] Jason: what was

[00:11:06] Jason: the action

[00:11:07] Jason: that caused that? Was it like the, again, like the pressure of the situation or like the kind of that overarching theme of like

[00:11:14] Jason: what

[00:11:14] Jason: this

[00:11:14] Jason: process

[00:11:15] Jason: is

[00:11:15] Jason: for you.

[00:11:15] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: again, stepping

[00:11:16] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: outta your

[00:11:16] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I think I don’t, yeah, I think it was just, I can’t even remember, but like, I think it was just the question that I was answering that just kind of hit a nerve because it was, yeah.

[00:11:26] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I don’t, I just, I don’t remember the specifics, but it was

[00:11:28] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: just coming outta

[00:11:29] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: my comfort zone I think.

[00:11:30] Jason: You’re obviously a little bit more comfortable with doing it now. Do you have any tips for anybody that is also struggling?

[00:11:36] Jason: This is a

[00:11:37] Jason: hard

[00:11:37] Jason: one. I mean,

[00:11:38] Jason: I, I think struggling

[00:11:39] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: what specifically?

[00:11:41] Jason: outta comfort zones a little bit and like getting comfortable with being uncomfortable.

[00:11:44] Jason: I think

[00:11:45] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: yeah.

[00:11:45] Jason: of that in what we do.

[00:11:47] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Yeah. So LinkedIn, , is pretty intimidating for a lot of people

[00:11:51] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: and

[00:11:51] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: so

[00:11:52] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I started

[00:11:52] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: that

[00:11:53] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: series. Your

[00:11:53] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: favorite, your favorite

[00:11:55] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: series. Called, , treating LinkedIn like a

[00:11:58] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: blog. [00:12:00] And look, somebody at CYC stopped me and they were like, Hey, you stopped posting your blog series on LinkedIn.

[00:12:07] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I really miss it.

[00:12:10] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I

[00:12:10] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: was

[00:12:10] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like,

[00:12:10] Robbie Wagner: what?

[00:12:10] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: And

[00:12:11] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: so

[00:12:11] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I

[00:12:11] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: had

[00:12:11] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: to

[00:12:11] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: find

[00:12:11] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: you

[00:12:11] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: and

[00:12:12] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: tell

[00:12:12] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: you

[00:12:12] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: because I was like, oh my

[00:12:14] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: gosh.

[00:12:14] Jason: she did,

[00:12:15] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: But it worked. Like, so I posted probably like once a week or something, just like what I was working on, what I was doing, whatever. And it just helped, um,, because I used to be a blogger, so like. Writing isn’t that’s not the hard part, it’s the like putting myself out there on LinkedIn somewhere that seems like it’s totally business. that helped me with putting myself out there on LinkedIn. And then gradually I talked about what I was like working on and what projects I was doing, because

[00:12:40] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I

[00:12:40] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: think

[00:12:40] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: that

[00:12:41] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: was the

[00:12:41] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: scarier part,

[00:12:42] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: was the building in public.

[00:12:43] Jason: Can you talk about that whole process again for. Your background as far as like you’ve done content

[00:12:51] Jason: creation and

[00:12:52] Jason: stuff like

[00:12:52] Jason: that.

[00:12:52] Jason: what’s

[00:12:53] Jason: what’s the background there?

[00:12:54] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Oh, yes.

[00:12:54] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: So I used to run a lifestyle blog,

[00:12:56] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: , ger feisty.com. It is since. Gone away. Like [00:13:00] I completely wiped it from the internet. , Because like before kids, it was like lifestyle blog and I, collaborated with brands and stuff, and then after kids, like it became more of a mommy blog and I did a lot of brand collabs, but it was like Pampers and, and then I talked about Sebastian and his like condition and everything a lot and, and then I was like, you know what, this is just a lot of information and maybe , this stuff doesn’t need to be out there, like all this private stuff about Sebastian’s condition and everything.

[00:13:24] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: So. I was like, whatever, I’m just gonna delete this. And then like the next year I was like, oh, and now I want to transition to tech and I, all, my content is completely gone. So, you know. Cool.

[00:13:36] Jason: hindsight’s 2020, I suppose.

[00:13:37] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: So I still do brand some brand collaboration on Instagram. , A lot of it is mostly like family content, but, , I feel like I keep it comical.

[00:13:45] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I’ll post my kids and stuff like in stories, but. for example, Lucas saved that picture of the, oops, your late sign. And like everybody knows that sign now. It says, oops, you’re late. Students should

[00:13:56] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: be

[00:13:56] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: in class

[00:13:57] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: by seven 30.

[00:13:58] Robbie Wagner: Yeah. I’ve seen that a lot. Yeah, yeah, [00:14:00] yeah. I know, I know. I’ve seen it. Yeah. So.

[00:14:02] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: So yeah. And I, I actually took the other day after school,

[00:14:07] Robbie Wagner: the

[00:14:07] Robbie Wagner: kids all

[00:14:07] Robbie Wagner: closed

[00:14:08] Robbie Wagner: with it.

[00:14:08] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I got a picture of that

[00:14:11] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: with the infamous sign because it’s freaking seven 30 in the morning.

[00:14:16] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: pretty early.

[00:14:16] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: because I look, I wake up at like four sometimes earlier, but they just take forever or like we’re out going out the door.

[00:14:23] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Someone has to poop. Or if Sebastian’s vomiting, like

[00:14:26] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: it’s

[00:14:26] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: just,

[00:14:26] Robbie Wagner: yep, just

[00:14:27] Robbie Wagner: apparently

[00:14:28] Jason: I never,

[00:14:30] Robbie Wagner: I love this.

[00:14:31] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: this

[00:14:31] Jason: segue

[00:14:31] Jason: for time management. Um.

[00:14:35] Jason: Let’s talk

[00:14:35] Jason: about that though, because I think, I think that that’s something that you’ve probably, I don’t wanna say mastered, but have certainly worked through and

[00:14:44] Jason: kind of iterated

[00:14:45] Jason: on because

[00:14:46] Jason: full-time

[00:14:47] Jason: job,

[00:14:48] Jason: full-time mom

[00:14:50] Jason: also trying to learn like how are you

[00:14:52] Jason: kind of

[00:14:53] Jason: managing

[00:14:53] Jason: all of this and like still functioning.

[00:14:56] Jason: I’m

[00:14:56] Jason: not functioning,

[00:14:57] Jason: it’s all,

[00:14:57] Jason: it’s a facade.

[00:14:58] Jason: Alright, there [00:15:00] we

[00:15:00] Jason: go.

[00:15:01] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I suck at studying at night because I will just get sleepy and be like, Nope. And then close my laptop. , I used to try to study like in bed and that didn’t work.

[00:15:09] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: And so just, you know, you just have to make like the changes. I set up my desk area. I got the second monitor. I realized that like waking up early is the way to go.

[00:15:16] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: And

[00:15:16] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: that’s why I work out in the morning, because you don’t have all the things that happen to you throughout the day that affect your mood, that make you tired, that like, make you just be like, no, thanks,

[00:15:25] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I’ll

[00:15:25] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: do it

[00:15:26] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: tomorrow.

[00:15:26] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: So, you know, I wake up at, it

[00:15:28] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: used to

[00:15:28] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: be

[00:15:28] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: three

[00:15:29] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: 30,

[00:15:29] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I

[00:15:29] Robbie Wagner: oof.

[00:15:30] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: on that, but it’s, it’s been four. I I know,

[00:15:33] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I know. And then like, I would go to bed like, mm, like 10 o’clock. But that’s why it’s been four, because lately I’ve been going to bed closer to 11, which is ridiculous. I know. And so.

[00:15:43] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Like

[00:15:43] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: one night a week, I basically

[00:15:44] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like crash out

[00:15:45] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: at 8:00 PM and like

[00:15:47] Jason: It happens. I mean, it’s, it’s your

[00:15:48] Jason: body

[00:15:49] Jason: catching up with you though.

[00:15:50] Robbie Wagner: But yeah, I don’t understand how like anyone, you have to have a lot of willpower and drive to want to do that. Like. Because I’m like, oh my God, I have one hour of free time. Ain’t [00:16:00] no way I’m doing something productive.

[00:16:01] Robbie Wagner: Like

[00:16:01] Robbie Wagner: I’m going to sit on the couch,

[00:16:03] Jason: Yeah.

[00:16:03] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Yeah. well, so in the evenings I am too tired to do any of that. So like. you know, you walk into your room just like plop

[00:16:10] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: stomach down,

[00:16:11] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like pull

[00:16:11] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: out

[00:16:11] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: your

[00:16:11] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: phone and just like,

[00:16:13] Jason: is that

[00:16:13] Jason: is that you do,

[00:16:14] Jason: Robbie?

[00:16:15] Robbie Wagner: That’s not

[00:16:15] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: what I

[00:16:15] Jason: personally do. No. you lay

[00:16:16] Jason: on your

[00:16:17] Jason: tummy and

[00:16:18] Jason: scroll

[00:16:18] Jason: TikTok

[00:16:19] Jason: with your

[00:16:20] Robbie Wagner: kicking

[00:16:20] Jason: your

[00:16:20] Jason: feet

[00:16:20] Jason: around

[00:16:21] Jason: like

[00:16:21] Jason: a teenage girl.

[00:16:22] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Um, no, but it’s just funny because like the way our bed is, like when you walk into the hallway, you just see my feet like sticking off and like that’s. Just what it looks like when I’m like veg out, like my brain’s going numb for a few minutes before like bedtime or dinner or something.

[00:16:37] Jason: What are you doing and how do you

[00:16:39] Jason: find

[00:16:39] Jason: time to

[00:16:40] Jason: not be focused on something?

[00:16:42] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: how do I find time to veg out?

[00:16:44] Jason: Yeah, I

[00:16:45] Jason: don’t,

[00:16:45] Jason: I

[00:16:45] Jason: just,

[00:16:46] Jason: it

[00:16:46] Jason: just

[00:16:46] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: happens.

[00:16:47] Jason: You just kind of, it, You

[00:16:48] Jason: just get it when you get it.

[00:16:50] Jason: Nah, I get that.

[00:16:51] Jason: Talk to us a little bit about. The app, the feed tube

[00:16:57] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Oh, okay. Well, Okay.

[00:16:59] Jason: Okay. well[00:17:00]

[00:17:00] Jason: and give us a little background, and I know,

[00:17:01] Jason: uh, obviously you’ve talked about it ad nauseum, but at the same time, I think this is sort of important storyline material for your journey here.

[00:17:09] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Yeah, I know. And I just feel bad ‘cause I guess Robbie hasn’t heard it 5 million times, so I’ll pretend I’m only talking to Robbie.

[00:17:15] Jason: Yeah.

[00:17:17] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Okay. So, . I am four 11 and three quarters, and I had twins. , I made it to my due date. I love remembering, my most difficult times when I was pregnant were, I worked at an elementary school library at the time and the parking lot, was like at one end of the building

[00:17:34] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: and

[00:17:34] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: the library was

[00:17:35] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: at the

[00:17:35] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: other. So like when I walked into the building, it was just like this massively long hallway and it felt even longer. Because when I was pregnant with Lela, the one baby,

[00:17:46] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I

[00:17:46] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: was fine.

[00:17:47] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: It was totally, I worked out probably to like two weeks before her due date or something with the twins. I think I had to stop a month before.

[00:17:53] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: But it seriously felt like,

[00:17:55] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like

[00:17:56] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: if

[00:17:56] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I

[00:17:56] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like

[00:17:57] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: relaxed, they would

[00:17:58] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: just fall out.

[00:17:59] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Like that’s what it [00:18:00] felt like. And so like walking down that hallway with like this huge just stomach on this, Small body. Um, it was one of the hardest things pre having them, like before having them. So I was super proud that I made it to the due date.

[00:18:15] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Both of them were over five pounds, which was the magic number, so that they wouldn’t end up in the nicu. and like this whole time, Sebastian was like hiding behind Aric, I guess. ‘cause they couldn’t ever fully see his like organs and stuff. Like whenever they did X-rays, they were just like, oh, he’s hiding.

[00:18:31] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: And then I think. one of the doctors noticed that like there was more, , now I can’t even remember. It was like the fluid, there was more in Sebastian’s. And normally that would happen if like something was wrong, but like, nobody noticed it. Nobody caught it. Like my doctor even said like, I was like the perfect twin pregnancy, whatever.

[00:18:49] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: so then they were born and , you know, obviously they noticed something was up with Sebastian and they took him. Right away. And I lost a ton of blood and I’m anemic. So like I even needed a transfusion. [00:19:00] I remember when they took him like, oh, I looked so out of it. They had him in this like crazy looking container.

[00:19:07] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: ‘cause they had to take him to a different hospital. ‘cause the one where I had him didn’t have like the high enough level NICU to deal with him. I

[00:19:13] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: think they drove, I don’t think they needed to fly him, but they, yeah, they took him to the downtown hospital and So he has bacterial association.

[00:19:21] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: VL is an acronym for seven different conditions. And if you have three of the seven minimum, you are like in under that umbrella AL association and it’s super rare. His main one is his respiratory condition. So I talk about that one ‘cause the other one is more private and then one of them’s a non-issue anymore, so he had esophageal.

[00:19:41] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Freesia. that means his esophagus and his trachea were connected. So like if he tried to eat or drink anything, basically it would just all go into his lungs. Um, yeah. Yeah. So like once the umbilical cord was gone, you know, like, so that was like the first operation and, he also ended up having an ostomy for like [00:20:00] nine months.

[00:20:00] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: , But luckily we were able to like kind of deal with that around the nine, 10 month mark. So anyway, the respiratory condition. It comes with like layers. He has asthma on top of that, he has, it’s trachea. So it’s basically his trachea is like super floppy and, , so he can’t , get rid of mucus and stuff.

[00:20:19] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: So like when you’re sick and you’re coughing and like you blow your nose or you like cough up phlegm, like he can’t do that. So it ends up going into his lungs and he gets pneumonia. , And then he also has a laryngeal cleft. Like all of these things are just like. Things that are common if you already have like this one condition.

[00:20:36] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Right. So, , the laryngeal cleft we only discovered

[00:20:39] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: After

[00:20:40] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like the most traumatic experience of our lives. when Sebastian was like 14 months old, he was eating dinner and we were like feeding him whatever. He starts choking. And so we’re like, patting him ‘cause we’re used to the choking because , he has some scarring in his esophagus.

[00:20:55] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: And so like. When he swallows, it partially swallows and [00:21:00] then like he swallows again, it’s like, it’s, it’s not in sync, it’s like two different swallows or whatever. So it’s called a stuckey and like kids with his condition often will have stuckey where it’s like something is stuck and usually they’ll be able to get it down eventually or they’ll throw it up.

[00:21:14] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: but he was choking and so like I flipped him over and was like hitting him on his back. I could feel him going stiff. And so like, I was like shoving my hand in his mouth and like, I felt his jaw locking up. And like, at this point I’m like screaming for Daniel. So Daniel grabs him and he’s trying, but he’s still like turning, he’s turning blue at this point.

[00:21:34] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: And my mother-in-law was visiting and she’s, , CPR certified. She’s a, A volunteer firefighter. So she was in her rv. But she had like babysat them all day. So, , I think she like fell asleep early or something. So we were like banging on the rv, like screaming. Daniel’s like doing a rescue, breathing like on Sebastian, on the hood of my car.

[00:21:54] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: , I think he like coughed or something and like, so he, he was breathing again. I called the ambulance. [00:22:00]

[00:22:00] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I called

[00:22:00] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: 9 1 1 and the lady was like, ma’am, you need to calm down. ‘cause I think I was just like. Screaming and, I wanted to know like how long Sebastian went without oxygen.

[00:22:10] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: So whenever we got to the hospital, like I rode in the ambulance with him his oxygen saturation was still super low. And like, while we were in the, , ambulance, he was vomiting food and like you could hear his, his chest rattling, like it was just sounding, it was like crazy. so we got to the hospital, they took him back to the OR and while he was back there.

[00:22:30] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I like looked up our ring camera and like I, I’m pretty sure he went like at least two minutes without oxygen. to this day, anything that like he’s behind on or whatever, like he’s spent so much time in hospitals like 2022, he’s like nine hospital stays and they’re all like a week or more.

[00:22:47] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: This one was three weeks because they just, that’s when they discovered the laryngeal cleft. ‘cause he had completely aspirated like his dinner into his lungs my theory because he was eating fine and drinking and he wasn’t getting sick. [00:23:00] So my theory is that when we were like, banging on his back, trying to get him to stop choking or like sticking our, you know, our fingers down his throat, I’m pretty sure that whatever he had going on, I think we need it worse.

[00:23:11] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: And I think that that’s why now it became like such a prominent thing. so anyway, he gets pneumonia a lot and all of this to say is he. Burns a lot of calories just existing. so

[00:23:23] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: that’s why

[00:23:24] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: he has a G-tube now.

[00:23:26] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like

[00:23:26] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: that

[00:23:26] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: was, that

[00:23:27] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: was the

[00:23:27] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: long version.

[00:23:28] Jason: No, but

[00:23:28] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: don’t usually talk

[00:23:29] Jason: I was gonna say, I don’t think you’ve really ever shared that. I

[00:23:33] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Yeah.

[00:23:34] Jason: multiple people here in the chat commenting on this.

[00:23:37] Jason: Um, Yeah.

[00:23:37] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: normally talk about

[00:23:38] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: the choking ’

[00:23:39] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: cause

[00:23:39] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Yeah, it

[00:23:40] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: normally,

[00:23:41] Jason: I, mean, he’s a parent.

[00:23:42] Jason: I

[00:23:42] Jason: mean, I like,

[00:23:43] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: no, like the turning blue and like the, the jaw, oh my gosh. It’s like. It’s super traumatic. I remember Daniel’s like, he ran, he would randomly have flashbacks, like every once in a while something would happen and he would just like remember like, holding this blue child, you know,

[00:23:57] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: it’s like,

[00:23:57] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: and insane. yeah.

[00:23:58] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Something like

[00:23:58] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: that.

[00:23:59] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: You

[00:23:59] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: know, just,

[00:23:59] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: [00:24:00] yeah.

[00:24:00] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: And then when he was in the, or like the doctor came out super stressed ‘cause he was like, he almost choked again while he was in there. Like it was, I was, it was, it was intense. But yeah, so he has a G-tube now and he eats by mouth just fine. Like he loves.

[00:24:13] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Food I have to get on top of him because

[00:24:16] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Sometimes

[00:24:16] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: he won’t even chew. He’s just like eating so much and I’m

[00:24:18] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: just like,

[00:24:19] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: child, you have

[00:24:20] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like almost

[00:24:21] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: died twice so I need you to please chew your food.

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[00:24:58] Jason: Jesse thinks you are [00:25:00] legit a badass by the way.

[00:25:03] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: thanks Jeff. , But yeah, so he has a G-tube so that he can maybe grow a little bit. ‘cause one of my jokes. Is that like obviously my DNA is not, I’m sitting on my foot right now. Like my DNA is not gonna help him, so we stopped doing the feeds ‘cause he eats so much now. So, , but that’s why he has his G-tube.

[00:25:20] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: And so like one of the million hospitals states he had in like 20 22, 20 23, the night shift nurses would struggle to figure out what the heck his feed rate should be because, even the length of time, because he would eat dinner and he would eat breakfast. But if he feeds like up until breakfast, he’s not going to eat breakfast.

[00:25:36] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: And so it’s like, do you want him to get the calories on his own or do you want him to have a knife eat? So that’s like the struggle. based on his weight, he’s supposed to have like, this many milliliters per hour, but when he’s sick, that makes him throw up. And so I have so much like bitterness towards the dieticians that would keep coming in and being like, he needs to eat this.

[00:25:56] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: And I’m like. You will vomit all of it if you try to do that. [00:26:00] So anyway, I, I made the tube feed rate calculator, like that’s what it was, , the first round or the first couple rounds. And it’s helped the parents in the G-tube communities, uh, advocate for their kids. And like, I just got a message the other day of this woman with two babies , that have G-tubes and she was like, I can’t believe this, you know, hadn’t been invented yet, or.

[00:26:21] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Created yet or whatever. And, , it was just a really great message that, and the community that I shared it with, like a year ago, they were also like, I’m bookmarking this. I love this, yada. And so, uh, I recently upgraded it. I need to, or with the original site to the new, to the upgrade because in the upgrade, , using OpenAI you can like search specific formulas so then parents can track the calories as well as, the milliliters and stuff.

[00:26:44] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: So.

[00:26:44] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Why did you

[00:26:45] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: decide

[00:26:46] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: to?

[00:26:46] Jason: this?

[00:26:47] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I was learning to code at the time and, , I mean, I’m still, but I was like in the beginning stages and that’s why it’s like the two V rate calculators and I was like, oh, this seems like a, like a project I can do. And , I’ve always been a problem [00:27:00] solver. I don’t think it’s just the math teacher in me because like, even as a librarian, like you know, you’re a resource.

[00:27:06] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I just, I always end up being a resource. For people. So, , it just kind of seemed natural. Daniel’s also a math teacher. We both kind of were like, we’re like, how are people not, I don’t understand, like, this is basic math, but at the same time it’s like so many people go around saying, I suck at math, I suck at math.

[00:27:22] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: And then also, like when you’re under pressure, like you have like, I don’t know how many patients in a night and something’s happening over here and over here, and you’re getting information from the dietician and the doctor and the parents. And so it’s just easier

[00:27:32] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: to

[00:27:32] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: be

[00:27:32] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like.

[00:27:33] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Let me just put the information in

[00:27:34] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: here

[00:27:35] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: and have

[00:27:35] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: it tell

[00:27:36] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: me.

[00:27:36] Robbie Wagner: Yeah.

[00:27:37] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Yeah, I

[00:27:37] Robbie Wagner: know how you would do

[00:27:38] Robbie Wagner: that

[00:27:38] Robbie Wagner: without a calculator.

[00:27:40] Robbie Wagner: Like,

[00:27:40] Jason: yeah.

[00:27:41] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: be like,

[00:27:41] Robbie Wagner: eh,

[00:27:41] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I

[00:27:41] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: guess

[00:27:42] Robbie Wagner: like.

[00:27:43] Jason: It seems wild to me that there wasn’t a tool for that. that.

[00:27:47] Jason: they

[00:27:47] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Yeah.

[00:27:48] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Yeah. And somebody in the, in one of the tube feed communities said that they were using one that was for like, , drips, so like a IV drip or whatever. But they were like, it’s not the same as for a tube feed. And [00:28:00] so, uh, yeah, so it’s been really helpful

[00:28:03] Jason: how, yeah.

[00:28:04] Jason: How have you found, I mean, obviously you very much advocate for your kids.

[00:28:09] Jason: where

[00:28:10] Jason: do you see the

[00:28:11] Jason: disconnect,

[00:28:11] Jason: where

[00:28:11] Jason: you will fight to the death for them, but then you struggle to advocate for yourself?

[00:28:16] Jason: This

[00:28:17] Jason: is

[00:28:17] Jason: just

[00:28:17] Jason: based on conversations

[00:28:18] Jason: you and I have had in the past about like, again, like

[00:28:22] Jason: you’re interviewing and

[00:28:24] Jason: like

[00:28:24] Jason: looking

[00:28:25] Jason: for roles or not thinking that you’re good enough to be there yet

[00:28:27] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: when

[00:28:28] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: you

[00:28:28] Jason: just

[00:28:28] Jason: put that together, like you just explained, like this

[00:28:32] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: breaking?

[00:28:33] Jason: app that you built.

[00:28:35] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I don’t know. Well, ‘cause you know, when I first built it, it was mainly like, it came from a problem that I saw other people having, but I kind of built it for me, I guess, because. People told me I was, they were like, this is too personal. This is too boot campy. And so like, I even, I wrote it down the other day.

[00:28:50] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I was like, I basically built this for like a traumatized mother, in the hospital room at night. Like, so, you know, it was, I made it for me and then like when other [00:29:00] people were interested, I started having to like, make it for them as well. I just went off on a tangent that had nothing to do with your

[00:29:06] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: question. yeah,

[00:29:07] Jason: didn’t at all, but that’s fine.

[00:29:09] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: probably Avoidance.

[00:29:10] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Yeah.

[00:29:10] Jason: Good avoidance can appreciate that.

[00:29:14] Jason: I’m a

[00:29:14] Jason: side.

[00:29:14] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: manager. What can I say?

[00:29:16] Jason: Well, I mean, I, I think it’s important to kind of point that out because I think that you’re a very strong advocate when it’s something you are like super passionate about, like

[00:29:27] Jason: your kids.

[00:29:28] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: They need

[00:29:29] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: people to advocate

[00:29:30] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: for them because they’re too little to do it right now. Hmm. I used to do

[00:29:33] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: the

[00:29:33] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: same for

[00:29:33] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: dogs beforehand and for

[00:29:35] Jason: for yourself

[00:29:36] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: too? I

[00:29:37] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: mean,

[00:29:37] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I do, I think that’s why I post every day on Twitter, like try to hold myself accountable. people

[00:29:42] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: have mentioned

[00:29:43] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: that they like the

[00:29:43] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: consistency

[00:29:44] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: of

[00:29:44] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: that.

[00:29:45] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I think that that’s kind of what I do on Twitter and that’s what I did on LinkedIn when I used it as a blog. Like I hold myself accountable and I try to, write about the good things. , I know you don’t wanna be unrealistic and never mention the bad things, obviously.

[00:29:58] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: It helps me and, you know, it might [00:30:00] help other people.

[00:30:00] Jason: You took

[00:30:01] Jason: the,

[00:30:02] Jason: the class that was your kind of entry into it. Why go back to that. Sorry,

[00:30:07] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Sorry,

[00:30:07] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: what

[00:30:08] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: tech,

[00:30:09] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Like you took

[00:30:10] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: the

[00:30:10] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: class

[00:30:10] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: in

[00:30:10] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: college,

[00:30:11] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like

[00:30:11] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: that one

[00:30:12] Jason: web design or whatever class.

[00:30:13] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: but

[00:30:14] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: it was, it just reminded me of something that I had done previously that I really liked. ‘cause it was , it was a very basic class. Like I, I got an easy A , and I was glad to help someone else through it as well, so.

[00:30:25] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I mean, it felt easy, excuse me. Like I’m sure obviously like some people needed help and it was great

[00:30:31] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: so

[00:30:32] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: after college, I didn’t wanna go to grad school, but I

[00:30:34] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: had a

[00:30:34] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: psych

[00:30:34] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: degree in like, what are you gonna do with psych degree?

[00:30:36] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: So

[00:30:37] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I was like, I figured I’d have to get a master’s at some point, but I didn’t want to go to school again.

[00:30:42] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: So that’s how I became a teacher. I did some alternative certification courses and I wanted to teach math because my dad is an engineer and so he like forced me to do math. Like every night, like it was your typical like sitting at the kitchen table, like your dad’s like,

[00:30:56] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: do this again.

[00:30:57] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: And you’re like, ha, [00:31:00] yay my

[00:31:02] Robbie Wagner: Yeah, I didn’t have that problem.

[00:31:06] Jason: Do you

[00:31:06] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Um,

[00:31:07] Robbie Wagner: No, I do have a dad

[00:31:08] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: and he’s an

[00:31:09] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: engineer, but

[00:31:10] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: he’s not, He didn’t force it upon

[00:31:12] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: you. So, yeah, I, uh, I got really good at math and after college I didn’t take a lot of math. ‘cause with the psych degree, I think I only needed to take like one course. But after college I was like, well, I used to be good at math, so maybe I can teach it.

[00:31:24] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: So I did the alternative certification courses, but I needed like five more math courses. No, sorry, I think maybe like four.

[00:31:31] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: And one of them. And one of one of them was college algebra, which, you know, like I’m sure some people. We’re fine with it, but it was really awesome because I would get to class early and basically like tutor my classmates and, , it was just a lot of fun.

[00:31:47] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Math is cool. And also side note, don’t let your children say that they suck at math and don’t let them hear you say that

[00:31:53] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: because it is, it is a self-fulfilling prophecy and you know, it’ll get stuck in their head and then they’ll just shut [00:32:00] down in math class.

[00:32:01] Jason: You mentioned, , Cuban dad,

[00:32:02] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Yeah,

[00:32:03] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: my parents are Cuban.

[00:32:04] Jason: Yeah, how much

[00:32:05] Jason: of

[00:32:06] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: And Catholic. Not traumatizing at all.

[00:32:07] Jason: I was gonna say, how much of that Cuban Catholic upbringing sort of influenced you as far as like your life and stuff?

[00:32:17] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I mean,

[00:32:17] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: that, that’s

[00:32:17] Jason: that’s admittedly hard and

[00:32:19] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: you

[00:32:20] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: joke

[00:32:20] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: about it, but

[00:32:21] Jason: like,

[00:32:22] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: what’s that , there was a lot of guilt. I don’t know. We are really close though, like since I’ve hit adulthood and everything, like, you know, we’ve got our road bumps and everything, but, like

[00:32:33] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I was what, I

[00:32:34] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: guess the first generation

[00:32:35] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: born in America in my family.

[00:32:36] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: So I’m like full-blooded Cuban.

[00:32:38] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: But I get teased cause I have an accent.

[00:32:41] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: you would think so. ‘cause I’m what, like the eldest of my family of, but no, There was always pressure to do well in school, but like I

[00:32:49] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: was

[00:32:50] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: incredibly spoiled.

[00:32:51] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Like,

[00:32:52] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I’m

[00:32:53] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: sad to

[00:32:53] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: say

[00:32:54] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I

[00:32:54] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: was

[00:32:54] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: very spoiled. I was very

[00:32:55] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: lucky as a kid. Um,

[00:32:57] Jason: you got all

[00:32:57] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: just, yeah, like my parents

[00:32:59] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: just, what do they [00:33:00] call?

[00:33:00] Jason: L Barbie.

[00:33:03] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Oh my God, L Bario. Um,

[00:33:07] Jason: Sounds

[00:33:07] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: but like, you know, they wanna give you what they couldn’t have when they were younger.

[00:33:11] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: , My parents grew up like before Castro, and then like when he took over, that’s whenever like my dad, .

[00:33:16] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: He tried to escape. ,, him and like a group

[00:33:19] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: of his

[00:33:19] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: friends

[00:33:20] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: tried

[00:33:20] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: to swim outta Cuba, but like one of

[00:33:22] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: them started,

[00:33:24] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: yeah, they started.

[00:33:26] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: treading

[00:33:26] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: water like

[00:33:27] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: right

[00:33:27] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: away.

[00:33:27] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: He’s like

[00:33:27] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: too tired. So

[00:33:28] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: they had to like, basically they were

[00:33:30] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: trying

[00:33:30] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: to

[00:33:30] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like

[00:33:30] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: keep him from drowning basically. And so they got caught

[00:33:33] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: and

[00:33:33] Jason: Do you, hold on. Do you, do you

[00:33:35] Jason: feel

[00:33:35] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like

[00:33:35] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: that’s

[00:33:36] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: something you

[00:33:36] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: should maybe

[00:33:37] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: for

[00:33:38] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: maybe

[00:33:38] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like

[00:33:38] Robbie Wagner: practice

[00:33:39] Robbie Wagner: swimming for a long

[00:33:40] Robbie Wagner: time

[00:33:40] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: time or Trained,

[00:33:41] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: how to swim. Yeah.

[00:33:42] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: no, I, you know, desperate times, I guess.

[00:33:45] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Um,

[00:33:46] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I don’t, but uh,

[00:33:49] Robbie Wagner: Yeah.

[00:33:49] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: so then they were, they were in political prison,

[00:33:51] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: so

[00:33:51] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: my

[00:33:51] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: dad

[00:33:51] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: was

[00:33:52] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like,

[00:33:52] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: screw

[00:33:52] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: it,

[00:33:52] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I’m

[00:33:52] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: gonna

[00:33:52] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: do

[00:33:53] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: this by myself

[00:33:53] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: next time.

[00:33:54] Jason: Could you imagine being like thrown in jail? ‘cause you can’t swim.

[00:33:58] Jason: Like

[00:33:58] Jason: your one

[00:33:59] Jason: flaw in life [00:34:00] was you didn’t

[00:34:00] Robbie Wagner: Yeah.

[00:34:00] Jason: lessons.

[00:34:01] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I

[00:34:01] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: guess

[00:34:02] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: probably

[00:34:02] Jason: different back then. Maybe the, they didn’t have A-Y-M-C-A like shark program or

[00:34:06] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: yeah. I don’t think they have a YMC in Cuba. They like barely

[00:34:10] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: have electricity, so,

[00:34:11] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: yeah, you, you laugh so you don’t cry. But no. So like, the second time he escaped, like he political prison is different ‘cause like he could like visit my mom at her house. ‘cause at this time they were already married. , So like he could go visit her and, you know, whatever.

[00:34:26] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: So he went to like the black market, got some flippers. , And then he

[00:34:29] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: ended

[00:34:29] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: up like swimming out

[00:34:30] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: that night

[00:34:32] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: and

[00:34:32] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like, I think, I think it was like

[00:34:33] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: five

[00:34:33] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: hours

[00:34:34] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: later.

[00:34:35] Robbie Wagner: right. this

[00:34:36] Robbie Wagner: is

[00:34:36] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: not

[00:34:36] Jason: funny, but

[00:34:37] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: five

[00:34:38] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: hours

[00:34:38] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: later

[00:34:39] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: he was picked up. No.

[00:34:42] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: my dad

[00:34:42] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: could swim.

[00:34:43] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Which is funny because now he, like,

[00:34:45] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: before

[00:34:46] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: he retired, he, so he worked on like the platforms and stuff like oil rigs and, , before he retired, like they had to do swim tests and stuff

[00:34:54] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: in

[00:34:54] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: case like

[00:34:55] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: the

[00:34:55] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: helicopter

[00:34:55] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: fell

[00:34:55] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: into

[00:34:56] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: the

[00:34:56] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: ocean

[00:34:56] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: and stuff. and he,

[00:34:57] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: they put a red cap

[00:34:58] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: on him

[00:34:59] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: because they

[00:34:59] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: were

[00:34:59] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like, [00:35:00]

[00:35:00] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: you are a risk.

[00:35:00] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: We have to watch

[00:35:01] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: for you.

[00:35:02] Jason: I mean,

[00:35:02] Jason: you

[00:35:02] Jason: say

[00:35:03] Jason: he can swim,

[00:35:03] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Florida coastline indicates other?

[00:35:06] Jason: but he,

[00:35:06] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: No, but he, so he swam for five hours, , and then he got picked up, like it

[00:35:10] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: was

[00:35:10] Jason: Jesus.

[00:35:11] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: water. There were like

[00:35:12] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: boats

[00:35:13] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: patrolling,

[00:35:13] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: so

[00:35:13] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: he’d have to

[00:35:14] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like swim

[00:35:14] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: underwater

[00:35:15] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: and

[00:35:15] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: then until

[00:35:15] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: he got

[00:35:16] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: past

[00:35:16] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: them and like, yeah,

[00:35:17] Jason: the waters are infested with the sharks.

[00:35:20] Jason: Yeah.

[00:35:21] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Oh yes.

[00:35:22] Jason: Wow. Geez.

[00:35:24] Jason: yeah,

[00:35:24] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: you

[00:35:25] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: know,

[00:35:26] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I don’t know.

[00:35:26] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Strong background.

[00:35:28] Jason: uh, apparently, I mean,

[00:35:30] Jason: I guess we

[00:35:31] Jason: will kind

[00:35:31] Jason: of pivot away from tech a little

[00:35:33] Jason: bit

[00:35:33] Jason: as

[00:35:33] Jason: far

[00:35:33] Jason: as

[00:35:33] Jason: this

[00:35:34] Jason: one, but

[00:35:34] Jason: it’s like

[00:35:34] Jason: how has that

[00:35:35] Jason: influenced how you raise your kids?

[00:35:38] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: because

[00:35:39] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I

[00:35:39] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: think

[00:35:39] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: we’ve all

[00:35:40] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: also had

[00:35:40] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: that

[00:35:41] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: swim

[00:35:41] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: lessons or

[00:35:42] Jason: Yeah,

[00:35:42] Robbie Wagner: are a, a priority.

[00:35:44] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Oh my gosh. With Sebastian’s fricking condition and L cleft and everything. Like

[00:35:48] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: we put

[00:35:49] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: them in

[00:35:49] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: swim

[00:35:49] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: class

[00:35:50] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: and we, but it’s

[00:35:51] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like.

[00:35:51] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: ,

[00:35:51] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Make

[00:35:52] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: sure he

[00:35:52] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: doesn’t

[00:35:52] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: swallow

[00:35:53] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: too much water

[00:35:54] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: because he’ll get pneumonia. Yeah, Well, I

[00:35:56] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: mean, because he has to drink thickened liquids.

[00:35:58] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Yeah. I

[00:35:59] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: can’t [00:36:00] imagine. Yeah. He has to drink thickened liquids so like we’re supposedly we, he had surgery over the summer, but he keeps being sick, so we can’t test to see if the surgery

[00:36:08] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: actually closed up

[00:36:10] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: the cleft or not.

[00:36:11] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: , But yeah,

[00:36:11] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: he would still

[00:36:11] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: have to

[00:36:12] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: learn to swallow

[00:36:12] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: thin like normal liquids like you, like we drink.

[00:36:15] Jason: like wine.

[00:36:16] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: yeah,

[00:36:17] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Yeah. I don’t know, I think that like my dad’s like workaholic, perseverance stuff definitely has, stuck around

[00:36:24] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: because obviously

[00:36:25] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like without

[00:36:26] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: that

[00:36:26] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I wouldn’t be able to transition from one career to another while working a full-time job and raising a family. So,

[00:36:33] Jason: as far as the transition goes, like why software engineer

[00:36:36] Jason: specifically

[00:36:37] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I think it’s the whole problem solving aspect of it. , Especially after like the tube feed tracker kind of took off in that community, , it really provided like the motivation to, be like, okay, Roxy, you’re on the right path. Like people, you’re, you know, and so whenever I like do a cover letter or like interview, I’m like, okay, well I want to do this, but on a bigger scale, you know, like I want to be able to impact.[00:37:00]

[00:37:00] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: A greater amount of people, I like problem solving. It helps you and it helps me feel fulfilled.

[00:37:06] Jason: The self-awareness moment. And Robbie, I’m gonna ask you the same question when she answer after she answers this.

[00:37:12] Jason: , Biggest weakness and biggest strength?

[00:37:14] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I

[00:37:14] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: feel like

[00:37:16] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: they

[00:37:16] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: might be

[00:37:16] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: the

[00:37:16] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: same

[00:37:18] Jason: which is what?

[00:37:19] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: the

[00:37:20] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like,

[00:37:21] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: don’t

[00:37:21] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: stop

[00:37:22] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: until

[00:37:22] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: your body falls

[00:37:22] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: apart.

[00:37:23] Jason: Don’t stop until you get enough. Or

[00:37:25] Jason: don’t stop,

[00:37:26] Jason: believing.

[00:37:26] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I

[00:37:26] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: know. Yeah. I think it’s like

[00:37:29] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I keep going

[00:37:30] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: until,

[00:37:32] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like

[00:37:32] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: my eyes explode at CYCA couple weeks ago. I freaking never had allergies that bad. And I think it was only compounded by like, the stress of like leaving home, going to a conference, interviewing while I’m at the conference.

[00:37:45] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Just like

[00:37:46] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: nonstop till your

[00:37:46] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: body like

[00:37:47] Jason: what’s the

[00:37:48] Jason: goal of that

[00:37:49] Jason: that you feel like you have to keep pushing?

[00:37:51] Jason: So, okay.

[00:37:52] Jason: No, I mean,

[00:37:52] Jason: that,

[00:37:53] Jason: that’s, that’s,

[00:37:53] Jason: what

[00:37:53] Jason: it is. But I mean, what’s the

[00:37:55] Jason: job?

[00:37:55] Jason: Do I think.

[00:37:56] Jason: that’s

[00:37:56] Jason: the bigger picture. It’s, It’s, the why

[00:37:59] Jason: the

[00:37:59] Jason: job

[00:37:59] Jason: [00:38:00] facilitates things for you. it’s

[00:38:01] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: It’s not the,

[00:38:01] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: job, it’s

[00:38:02] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: the

[00:38:02] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: job

[00:38:03] Jason: can provide for.

[00:38:05] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: So I like through this whole

[00:38:07] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: journey

[00:38:07] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: with a hundred Debs and Leon and everything like. , The community has helped me sort of realize that I am leaning more towards like, DeVere and community and, , so I feel like the fact that, like I already said, that I end up being a resource,

[00:38:20] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I don’t

[00:38:20] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: know,

[00:38:21] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: really kind of

[00:38:22] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: paves the

[00:38:22] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: way towards

[00:38:23] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: one of, a role in one of those environments.

[00:38:25] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: So, ,

[00:38:26] Jason: I think it makes sense.

[00:38:27] Jason: I

[00:38:27] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: mean,

[00:38:27] Jason: you

[00:38:27] Jason: have

[00:38:28] Jason: the

[00:38:28] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: education

[00:38:28] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: background.

[00:38:29] Jason: I mean,

[00:38:29] Jason: I

[00:38:29] Jason: feel

[00:38:29] Jason: like

[00:38:29] Jason: there’s

[00:38:30] Jason: a

[00:38:30] Jason: lot

[00:38:30] Jason: of transferrable skills there, so

[00:38:32] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: that’s

[00:38:33] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: fair,

[00:38:33] Jason: Robbie. All right. Biggest strength, biggest weakness.

[00:38:35] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: No. Fair. He had more time to prep

[00:38:37] Robbie Wagner: I don’t know. My brain

[00:38:38] Robbie Wagner: doesn’t work.

[00:38:38] Robbie Wagner: That’s my weakness.

[00:38:40] Robbie Wagner: Um, yeah, no, I think, my weakness is like not spending enough time like reacting too quickly to some

[00:38:49] Robbie Wagner: things.

[00:38:49] Robbie Wagner: With parenting

[00:38:50] Robbie Wagner: or like dealing with people who aren’t doing what I want at work or whatever, like not being diplomatic enough to like take a breath and like, say the right thing

[00:38:59] Robbie Wagner: [00:39:00] necessarily. strength,

[00:39:01] Robbie Wagner: uh, I don’t know. I like to work a lot, so,

[00:39:05] Robbie Wagner: uh, like I

[00:39:06] Robbie Wagner: code

[00:39:06] Robbie Wagner: for fun after I code, so

[00:39:08] Robbie Wagner: guess that’s a

[00:39:08] Robbie Wagner: strength,

[00:39:09] Robbie Wagner: a

[00:39:09] Robbie Wagner: lot

[00:39:09] Robbie Wagner: of

[00:39:09] Robbie Wagner: output.

[00:39:10] Jason: I feel

[00:39:10] Jason: like a

[00:39:10] Jason: lot

[00:39:11] Jason: of people do that. I’ve noticed a

[00:39:12] Jason: lot of

[00:39:12] Jason: developers

[00:39:13] Jason: hobby is developing.

[00:39:14] Robbie Wagner: Yep.

[00:39:15] Robbie Wagner: it

[00:39:15] Robbie Wagner: is. Yeah.

[00:39:16] Robbie Wagner: I mean, before kids it was easy. ‘cause like my wife’s like, I’m gonna watch this, whatever. And I’m like, I’m gonna code for

[00:39:23] Robbie Wagner: five hours. yeah, now it’s, it’s harder ‘cause I’m like,

[00:39:26] Robbie Wagner: I

[00:39:26] Robbie Wagner: have

[00:39:26] Robbie Wagner: one hour

[00:39:27] Robbie Wagner: of free time.

[00:39:27] Robbie Wagner: So I’m watching Law and Order SVU in this

[00:39:29] Robbie Wagner: bitch.

[00:39:29] Robbie Wagner: I’m

[00:39:29] Robbie Wagner: not

[00:39:29] Robbie Wagner: like,

[00:39:30] Jason: Yeah, baby

[00:39:32] Jason: Maloney, old

[00:39:33] Jason: blue

[00:39:33] Jason: eyes.

[00:39:34] Robbie Wagner: no, he’s in a different law

[00:39:35] Robbie Wagner: and order now,

[00:39:36] Robbie Wagner: but he’s on a, , what is his?

[00:39:38] Robbie Wagner: Called, I should know this, but I

[00:39:39] Robbie Wagner: don’t. I’m

[00:39:40] Robbie Wagner: embarrassed.

[00:39:41] Jason: I, feel like you really dropped the ball there. Boom. Boom.

[00:39:44] Jason: Whichever one.

[00:39:44] Robbie Wagner: Whichever

[00:39:44] Robbie Wagner: one.

[00:39:45] Robbie Wagner: he’s on now. It’ll come to me at some point, but it’s on. Oh, peacock only. Like you can’t watch on NBC anymore and I don’t, I don’t pay for

[00:39:51] Robbie Wagner: Peacock, so,

[00:39:52] Jason: Elliot Stabler.

[00:39:53] Jason: We need

[00:39:53] Jason: him back

[00:39:54] Jason: on

[00:39:54] Jason: prime time. Fuck that premium stuff.

[00:39:57] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I

[00:39:57] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: watch

[00:39:57] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Below Deck

[00:39:58] Robbie Wagner: on [00:40:00]

[00:40:00] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: That’s my, that’s the

[00:40:01] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: one show

[00:40:01] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: that

[00:40:02] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I even keep up with. It’s

[00:40:03] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like

[00:40:03] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: it’s

[00:40:03] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: complete

[00:40:04] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: garbage, but

[00:40:04] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: it’s

[00:40:04] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: not

[00:40:05] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: as

[00:40:05] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: bad. That’s

[00:40:06] Robbie Wagner: It’s a guilty pleasure. Yeah.

[00:40:08] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: not as

[00:40:08] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: bad as like the house wise.

[00:40:09] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: yeah,

[00:40:10] Jason: watched the Bachelor

[00:40:11] Jason: series, so,

[00:40:12] Robbie Wagner: to Love Island? That’s what I want.

[00:40:14] Jason: oh,

[00:40:14] Jason: I don’t even

[00:40:15] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: it,

[00:40:15] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: but I like below deck cause

[00:40:16] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: it’s

[00:40:16] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like

[00:40:17] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: you

[00:40:17] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: see

[00:40:17] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like

[00:40:18] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: rich

[00:40:18] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: people’s

[00:40:18] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: lives

[00:40:19] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: and

[00:40:19] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: then you’re following the yacht crew that’s like serving them, like while they’re on the

[00:40:23] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: boat.

[00:40:23] Jason: like there’s a

[00:40:23] Jason: height joke there somewhere that I

[00:40:25] Jason: just cannot

[00:40:26] Jason: get

[00:40:26] Jason: right now.

[00:40:28] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Something below Deck

[00:40:30] Jason: and your Tiny stature. Roxy, we have about two

[00:40:34] Jason: minutes left. Okay.

[00:40:36] Jason: And I

[00:40:36] Jason: want to thank

[00:40:36] Jason: you

[00:40:37] Jason: for,

[00:40:37] Jason: this

[00:40:37] Jason: is

[00:40:37] Jason: our first

[00:40:38] Jason: IRL

[00:40:39] Jason: Cabernet

[00:40:39] Jason: commute. I

[00:40:40] Jason: feel

[00:40:41] Jason: like we

[00:40:41] Jason: should

[00:40:41] Jason: do these more. This is pretty

[00:40:42] Jason: cool.

[00:40:43] Jason: What’s

[00:40:44] Jason: success look like to you?

[00:40:46] Jason: the last

[00:40:46] Jason: question, the final boss?

[00:40:49] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: a job?

[00:40:52] Jason: No,

[00:40:52] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: but really like,

[00:40:53] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like snagging, you know, my first role in tech and I know that like, I’ll still have to wake up at [00:41:00] 4:00 AM for a while to like learn and like, you know, ramp up and onboard and, you know, know everything I need to know. For the role and you know, it’ll never stop.

[00:41:10] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: But

[00:41:11] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I

[00:41:11] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: feel like,

[00:41:12] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: you

[00:41:12] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: know,

[00:41:13] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: eventually

[00:41:14] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I’ll

[00:41:14] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: be

[00:41:14] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: comfortable

[00:41:14] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: enough, I

[00:41:15] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: can

[00:41:15] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: sleep

[00:41:15] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: until like,

[00:41:16] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: 4 45 and then go to the

[00:41:18] Robbie Wagner: Wow. Sleeping in.

[00:41:19] Jason: fucking slacker. I,

[00:41:21] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: well I still wanna go to the gym at five. Okay guys, I just, you know, I wish I

[00:41:25] Jason: and you wanna get up at

[00:41:25] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: could

[00:41:26] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: do that.

[00:41:26] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Well, yeah, I live, I live,

[00:41:28] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like 10 minutes from the gym,

[00:41:29] Jason: Right, And

[00:41:30] Jason: you’re

[00:41:30] Jason: somehow

[00:41:31] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: envisioning

[00:41:32] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: that you’re

[00:41:32] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: gonna

[00:41:32] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: be

[00:41:32] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: ready

[00:41:33] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: go in five

[00:41:34] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: minutes. What

[00:41:35] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: dream

[00:41:35] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Uh, I

[00:41:36] Robbie Wagner: I have

[00:41:36] Jason: I

[00:41:36] Jason: have

[00:41:36] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: my gym

[00:41:36] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: clothes

[00:41:37] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: set

[00:41:37] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: out.

[00:41:37] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I

[00:41:37] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: don’t

[00:41:37] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: have to

[00:41:38] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like do hair and

[00:41:38] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: makeup or anything.

[00:41:40] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Yeah, I used to look,

[00:41:41] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: That is when I first

[00:41:42] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: started

[00:41:43] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: going to the gym at five in the morning.

[00:41:44] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I would sleep

[00:41:45] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: in my

[00:41:45] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: gym

[00:41:45] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: clothes

[00:41:46] Robbie Wagner: slowly.

[00:41:47] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I

[00:41:47] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: would

[00:41:47] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: wake up early

[00:41:48] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: enough to where I

[00:41:49] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: wouldn’t

[00:41:49] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: have to sleep in

[00:41:50] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: my gym clothes.

[00:41:51] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: But

[00:41:51] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: that

[00:41:51] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: is

[00:41:51] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: how

[00:41:51] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I

[00:41:51] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: did

[00:41:52] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: it. That’s

[00:41:52] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: how

[00:41:52] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I

[00:41:52] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: started

[00:41:53] Robbie Wagner: Yeah. I’m way

[00:41:53] Robbie Wagner: too

[00:41:54] Robbie Wagner: sleepy

[00:41:54] Robbie Wagner: in the mornings I wake up, I’m like.

[00:41:56] Robbie Wagner: At night, I’m like, you

[00:41:57] Robbie Wagner: know

[00:41:57] Robbie Wagner: what?

[00:41:57] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I’m gonna work out at 6:00 AM I’m definitely gonna [00:42:00] wake up.

[00:42:00] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I’m like, nah,

[00:42:01] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: there’s no way.

[00:42:03] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: five wake

[00:42:03] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: up. no. no. I

[00:42:05] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like, normally,

[00:42:06] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like,

[00:42:06] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I

[00:42:06] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: used

[00:42:06] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: to

[00:42:06] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: go to the gym at 5:00

[00:42:07] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: PM and I

[00:42:08] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: think

[00:42:08] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: my

[00:42:08] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: hi, my tallest box jump was like 30 or 32 inches,

[00:42:12] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: which is almost half my

[00:42:13] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: height, by the way.

[00:42:14] Jason: tall as you, but

[00:42:15] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: way I

[00:42:16] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: would ever

[00:42:16] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: try that at five in the morning.

[00:42:17] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: Like

[00:42:17] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I

[00:42:17] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: would

[00:42:18] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: just

[00:42:18] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: die

[00:42:19] Jason: I’ve

[00:42:19] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: death by box,

[00:42:21] Jason: in the morning.

[00:42:21] Jason: So it’s just, I, I can get

[00:42:23] Jason: up early, I can do work,

[00:42:25] Jason: but

[00:42:25] Jason: I

[00:42:25] Jason: couldn’t

[00:42:25] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: work

[00:42:25] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: out.

[00:42:26] Jason: And I’m a runner

[00:42:27] Jason: too,

[00:42:27] Jason: so

[00:42:27] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: it’s like I don’t, it’s

[00:42:27] Jason: don’t, it’s

[00:42:28] Jason: dark.

[00:42:29] Jason: I

[00:42:29] Jason: don’t,

[00:42:30] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: competition going on with Noel, so

[00:42:33] Jason: shout out

[00:42:33] Jason: Noelle.

[00:42:34] Jason: Shout out Leon. Noelle. Shout out a hundred devs.

[00:42:37] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: LGT.

[00:42:38] Jason: over there. Um.

[00:42:41] Jason: This has been really awesome. Where can people find you, Roxy, that don’t already have

[00:42:46] Jason: all of your

[00:42:46] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: um, I am Roxanna Codes on Twitter, and then for some reason my blue sky is different. It’s Roxy, rod, Beck.

[00:42:53] Jason: That’s dumb.

[00:42:54] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I know.

[00:42:55] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: And then no, it’s

[00:42:57] Jason: Just, I’m kidding.

[00:42:58] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: I think that like a few people were [00:43:00] like, wait, rod Beck isn’t your actual last name.

[00:43:03] Jason: It’s not.

[00:43:03] Jason: Apparently

[00:43:04] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: It’s Becker.

[00:43:06] Jason: today

[00:43:06] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: That’s how my parents say Becker. That’s why I say it

[00:43:09] Roxy Rodriguez-Becker: like that

[00:43:10] Jason: do that again for the love

[00:43:12] Jason: of God. Well, anyway, we’re gonna get off. Uh, whiskey Webb has another episode

[00:43:17] Jason: featuring,

[00:43:18] Jason: uh, the homie Nick Taylor,

[00:43:21] Jason: who’s standing

[00:43:22] Jason: right off

[00:43:22] Jason: camera here with

[00:43:23] Jason: the beautiful Patrick and Tater head. He’s shaking his head at me right now.

[00:43:29] Jason: But

[00:43:29] Jason: anyway, we’re signing off. Thank you again for everybody. I see Jeff and Rich. Rich was here, and Shannon and all the friends Linda would up. we, are you ready to sign off, Robbie?

[00:43:38] Robbie Wagner: Yeah,

[00:43:39] Jason: my co my, my end thing

[00:43:40] Jason: here. It’s

[00:43:41] Jason: nice

[00:43:42] Jason: to

[00:43:42] Jason: be

[00:43:42] Jason: important,

[00:43:43] Jason: but

[00:43:43] Jason: it’s more

[00:43:43] Jason: important to be

[00:43:44] Jason: nice

[00:43:46] Jason: Bye everybody

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